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Still playing, and loving it! Story and characters are both awesome and addictive. 


Just miss the hide button in android to remove the text box to be able to see images full. So far ★★★★★

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well, I have finished the game and I have several things to say, sorry if something is not understood, I am not a native speaker and I am using a translator.

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I had already played some of orange before and I really came with expectations about the game, although the synopsis seemed a bit “cliche”, I'm glad to say that they know how to take it in a good way, unfortunately I can't say that I liked the visual novel, but as a fan of this medium I come to give an opinion something more worked with the hope that this will improve, because although I did not like it, I really think orange has a lot of potential with this

the art:

I know the artist, I follow him on twitter and I can say that this is a very good section, the characters I love.... BUT, for this very reason it became incredibly boring to me to see the same character Sprite for more than 7 hours straight, the characters change expression, yes, but it is the least they could do. it is as if they had a stick up their ass during the whole game, it makes one of the attractions that a VN should have go completely to the background and knowing the artist's work it hurts more to see how little exploited this one is. I wish I could see Roderick move his arms, some head movement, have Rowan gesticulate a bit for god's sake, I feel like several tense moments are diluted because I see the characters as planks and opening their eyes slightly wider than normal or with their mouths slightly open.

next problem, the other characters, I understand that possibly the budget doesn't allow to order more characters, but at least use a shadow or silhouette of these, many times I must assume that just someone else is in the conversation, this is also part of why it feels boring after a while, since we only see Roderick and Rowan, the only characters apart from them with sprites are the old woman and the tiger, unfortunately we send them both away, as I said, maybe it's a budget problem and that's fine, but at least put some silhouette so you can notice(visually) that I'm talking to someone else and not spend the whole story just seeing these two(Roderick and Rowan).

Third point, again, I assume the problem is the lack of budget, but a VS needs to have drawn scenes, it's literally one of the main attractions of this medium, back to the previous point, the sex scenes have an incredible quality, but I would give anything to have art in important moments for the plot, I can't say the amount of times I stopped to think “shit, I wish there was art of this”.

that about art, in general, are easy problems to solve, you just need more support and resources. Now, the real BIG problem I have with this VN is the writing and scripting.

Plot Convenience: From the start we have a problem, Roderick and his gang saving Rowan, sorry, but all I can think is that the bear is the worst leader of all in leading his group to an obvious certain death, all for a man they met less than 24 HOURS ago, I understand they are not murderers, but don't try to whitewash them, THEY ARE Kidnappers, THIEVES AND MERCENARIES, in no way do I understand how these people risked their lives for a nice young man who only lived with them for a day, let alone Roderick's decision to put his FAMILY in mortal danger for a stranger, what bothers me the most is that this would have been solved in a very simple way, with the cultists simply attacking the gang in the cave first, after all, they didn't want to leave witnesses that can rebel the origin of the crimson tide and simply make the fight spread to Rowan, seeing that they will kill them anyway, it is better to take the prince, that makes much more sense than the completely stupid decision to help him just because “we are good mercenaries”.

This is one of the examples that bothered me the most, I have more but I won't go into them too much, I will list the following with their respective script problems: Roderick being in front of Rowan's friend (head of the royal guard) and that she doesn't aim to kill him, or at least to confront him when she finds out what happened, it was all Roderick and his gang's fault. Rowan synchronizing “perfectly” in battle with Roderick, the prince accepts that he never paid special attention to his swordsmanship classes and training with the bear was just the basics of it, plus we never showed more practice other than when they played in the warehouse of the abandoned bar. Rowan's “incredible” speaking ability in the lumberjack village, this would make sense if from the beginning or later they showed that Rowan has a gift for words, but no, this is the only time he solves a conflict through speech, the rest of the time being a good hearted young man who errs on the side of naivete, a far cry from a skilled speaker. The worst of all, the end with the ambush of the cult, Roderick and Rowan should have died here, without the slightest chance, the fact that they simply let them go is something so absurd that it is even funny how badly raised it is, even one of the cultists says it “why let them go? we can kill them or hold them as we want”. These are the ugliest examples, but like this I feel that several small situations are resolved BECAUSE IF.

The reactions of the characters: Roderick just watched his family get slaughtered, meh, it's fine, just put “a burning anger burns his chest” and ready...... NOOOOOOO, I get that Roderick is not someone very expressive, but he literally looked like he didn't care, he must have been bitter irritated, would be rude, even aggressive, I thought it would be like that when Rowan tries to talk about it, but we just have Roderick saying “we won't talk about it” and it's never addressed anymore, how am I going to care if it barely seems like it matters to Roderick.

Rowan, the good hearted young optimist saw how the demons scourged and slaughtered his people and his kingdom...he barely and makes mention of it, it is only said that he is sad but they never show it, or they barely show a small reaction that lasts 1 minute and then we move on to the next thing, the characters reactions to things like death, horror, happiness, sadness are VERY VAGUE. The moment where it was best handled was when Roderick and Rowan had their fight in the dwarf fortress, that was an excellent moment, they were conflicted, angry, sad and you could see this in their reactions and dialogue...BUT this was ruined when after the fight with the demons, they are just fine and that's it. I screamed at the screen when one of them said “we don't have to talk about this, it's all good now” DAMN NO, the drama of that situation was excellent and it was the perfect time to talk about their relationship and have them develop, but instead I just swept it all under the rug and that was it.

Another one of the worst examples at the end, Rowan makes a very stupid decision, let the leader of the bad guys take the seal (I have a lot of problems with this, but I won't elaborate further), they literally just ripped the skin off his hand, leaving it red hot. Rowan should be running out of the place gasping, crying and barely enduring the pain of something like this, instead, we barely even get a description of this and then we get the sex scenes, all of this happened in less than a couple of hours and Rowan acts like he didn't get his skin ripped off like a potato, creme, I more than anyone wanted to finally see these two consummate their love, but the timing was horrible, the situation was shitty and these 2 assholes should be thinking about a thousand other things instead of having sex in the woods, our cute and kind prince just further doomed his people and seems to barely and care as long as he can have bear dick.


The repetition: this may be something that is more about the writer's style, but I'll say it anyway, just tell him once, you don't need to repeat 5 times that the enemies are many, I don't need to read “their relationship is stronger now” after each conflict, in general many moments have incensey text, it hinders the rhythm.


I know I must sound like a complete hater right now, but if I wrote all this is because I was really interested in this work, it has things well done and with a lot of potential, Roderick's past, his traumas for so much death, his hard life, the prince's conflict between his mission and helping people, the goddess and the god of the cultists theme, Rowan's path to harden himself and become the king his people need, etc. All these things are amazing and it has shown me that they can be exploited, they have been done well, but it needs more, much more if you want to continue this story, because right now, it seems to me just the draft of a story that needs a lot of revision to have an acceptable level, I hope that if someone reads this can leave their opinion, all with respect, and hopefully leave a little guide on how to improve this project, which I repeat, has a LOT of potential.

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Actually i think this is completely valid and thorough critique 

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Thanks, as I said I'm a fan of these games, that's why I think it's important to make constructive criticism of the things that don't quite work in the game, not just praise everything or say it's crap without giving arguments or insult.

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Just finished the first volume. What a ride! The character design is top! I really like Evelyn! Not at all the character you would expect to find in a furry VN. You definitely know how to keep the flow so there's not a single dull moment! I hope this project grows to become what it's meant to be. And don't pay attention to people that critizice the way you're doing it. Just do your thing, no matter what! BTW, that scene was hot! 🥵🥵🥵

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Very Outdated Mary Sue-like content.Boring. (In fact, the heroine of Mary Sue is the most powerful in the universe, and this game imitates Mary Sue’s shortcomings very well)

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Hey please don't let these idiots going on about AI art deter from finishing this VN. I really enjoy it. There are so many VNs that don't get finished. I would hate for this to be one.

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big shame the bg art is uncredited, very likely AI. If there's plans to actually pay an artist/photographer for their work with that patreon money I'll be waiting.

I'mvery sure the art is made by the person who posted the VN, unless I'm missing something

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Pls, put a hide Button in screen, bcs smartphone doesn't have keyboard to press H ;)

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Try swiping down.

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how many volumes are planned, 2 or more?

I like this world. I laughed and cried making it a top VN pick for me.

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Some of y'all's comments are
baffling to me. That's all I'll say.

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Thought it would be anohter insulting stockholm fetish, but, thankfully, end result turned out to be much better then I expected. My major complaint is a plothole regarding prince kidnapping; tiger says that they kidnapped him for his contractor for what he assumed is ransom but its unclear why bandits ever needed to go this far when they could just initiate ransom themselves. Wouldn't it be much more convenient?

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It's possible that they were paid enough that it wouldn't have been worth it to go through the extensive process of ransoming him without being caught. Or they just didn't like trying to figure out how to pull it off, when they were going to be guaranteed to be paid a lot for half the work.

They most likely only thought of kidnapping the prince because the contractor had specifically hired them to do so.

well, i guess this works

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Waaa.... I love the tiger.. Y-you meanie! ʕ   -̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥᷄◞ω◟-̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥᷅  ʔ

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This is a fun read. looking forward to more.

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Would I be right to assume that the backgrounds are AI "art"? ^^'

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Yes. And?

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Good to know the author isn't censoring mentions of AI at least. But yeah I'll be avoiding their games from now on. Big shame too since I enjoyed OIHS from way back in the day. Ah well, more time to play literally every other furry VN that doesn't use machine plagiarism.

My point is is that it's not hard to pay for a background artist esp with patreon money. Or just use stock images. Many other devs do this, it's not a high bar to clear.

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Prolly the most based thing I ever heard. The fuck is Machine Plagiarism. Sounds like reverse racism. Both of those things are dumb and don’t make sense.

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This story is turning into just as epic a tale as OIHS! 😁 I looove the direction, the pace, and just how different xour writing style is in this VN~ ♥️

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The background art was impressive. I found one misspelling in the game, it stood out because everything else was well-written.

'The safe room' Rowan shouts back immediately. 'But we need to first Astrid first! Rosalie will be with her.'

I can't wait to see more. I'm hooked!

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I am so confused, why is Rowan blaming himself for the situation when he was literally kidnapped and brought to his potential doom by the bandit whom he is traveling with right now. Wouldn't it make way more sense that he is blaming the bandit for literally everything because it is literally the bandit's fault?

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Because he chose to slip out of the palace without letting anyone know or taking guards with him. For not taking enough precautions when he did this either.

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Wow. Awesome!

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Loved the story, great characters, excited to see where the vn goes, but jeez, you put GRRM to shame with how quick you are to kill off characters. I had just enough to time to get completely emotionally invested and then that cave scene happened.

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Pretty sure that character isn't truly gone, simply cuz they have an sprite and multiple emotions of it too. Why bother giving them sprite work only to be axed so early ya know..

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I don't think he's coming back. Read through the last update and you will understand.

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Yet another Stockholm Syndrome?

Not at all...

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eventhough the use of ai art for the bgs does kinda upset me, its nice to have a good use for ai art that isnt evil

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might sound like a very silly question but beastkin wear footwear and have plantigrade posture in this setting?  im asking for fanart purposes :3

im entirely going off of one description of the sound of Rod's footfalls as heavy boots so im not absolutely sure.

is there anywhere you've made the full sprites of the main characters public feets and all? xD

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the sprites don't have feet 😋 in my mind, they wear boots with humanoid-ish feet, same as their hands/paws

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Would have been awesome if they had digitigrade paws with cuteness enhancing beans.

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who is the artist for this game?

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It says right on this page

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the background art?

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i think it's ai ngl....

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A human mc who doesn't look dumb o.o praise the vn gods! 

Guran does great work the characters look fantastic.

update* I caved and paid for the 5$ patreon it's worth it for all future updates so why not. I enjoy the story so far and Roderick is a hunk so we are in this till the end now. 

My only suggestion/complaint is Sometimes the pacing feels a bit off or rushed. Also I can't lie hearing the royalty free stoic sad music which is used in a lot of dumb "sad" memes and jokes on youtube is a bit jaring, I think it should be changed.

great job so far!

thanks for ur support! 🙏 which parts' pacing feel off to you? i might edit those scenes 

Hmmm it really depends if the story is a long one or a short one.

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Great content so far, though I was wondering about one of the characters

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Is there any chance that they will bring Finn back?

It is always good to have more tiger cuteness.

That would be awesome, I don't think that's going to happen though...

Nice Vn,  so  please I want to see a love triangle xD

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What a great start! 🙂 the pace and characters have been laid out so nicely, and while OIHS doesn't exactly have a heavy tone to it, there is something very refreshing and tender about TSP 😌

Very excited to see where the story will go! 😋 Xou've taken all xour skills (pun intended) from xour previous novel and used them to create something which will no doubt leave us with a flutter in our chests as opposed to bulges in our pants~ 😏

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thank you! 🧡

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Not gonna lie, at first i thought it says "Argentina" instead of  "Argentia" and i was all confused

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A case of Stockholm Syndrome, I see. I'd prefer the phrase "slowly taming his captor". I guess I'll check it out later

Oh wait you're the author of OIHS, nevermind then

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tsp and oihs are very different visual novels

edit: for further clarification, tsp is a romance vn. sex is not a central theme to the story

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So, your complaint is that the main character isn't a dominant top? I can respect that.

Although Orange does technically have the right to write his VNs however he wants, and since they're passion projects, he's not really required to write it the way readers want.

I will say though, there are a few Visual Novels in which the MC is a top. But dominant? Yeah, that's in like 10 VNs max (out of 60 or so), and most of them are because they're route based romance VNs, so of course there are submissive dateable characters. All that to say I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you for characters to be dom tops in VNs. But that's just my opinion

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I'm not demanding Orange to write what I want him to, I'm asking for an answer. If I don't like that answer, I'll just fuck off and go read what I already like. My wording might not be preferable but I just wanna know what I'm gonna get so that I can avoid dissatisfaction when that time comes

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     It is quite strange that you have already discerned the entire plot when the story hasn't even told us anything remotely sexual about either character. While it is highly likely the prince will be submissive, who's to say the big guy doesn't like having his ponytail grabbed while having his cheeks clapped? At the end of the day it is the story that the dev wants to tell! Nothing wrong with constructive criticism but simply venting crap like I won't read it bcuz you're not making the character a top isn't remotely constructive!

         One of the best VNs I've read is Remember the Flowers and admittedly I was apprehensive about reading it the second it announced the MC was asexual but I gave it a shot and they did not disappoint. I didn't attack the dev for not making the character I wanted. I took it as the story the dev wanted to tell.

    Often times these stories are influenced by the patrons anyway. Many devs have polls which allow their supporters to influence things in the story. You're scrutinizing a project you've contributed $0 towards like they charged you for it, Karen! Being dominant might get you what you want in bed(doubtful 😑) but at the end of the day it is probably 80% boss bottom bitches paying the $5 or $10 subs. 

     You needn't respond to this by the way. I have no patreon account that requires your coin and your opinion means far less than that to me. This post, as yours was, is just meaningless thoughts spoken to express my distaste of your idea that this world or any other would cater to such a person as you. I'll even assist your cause and make your lil ego feel a whole 4 inches tall by giving this comment it's first dislike 😋. Aren't I the sweetest?

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As someone who also strongly prefers to play as a dom top in VNs that allow you to choose your own position I can empathize with your claim. I do feel that a very large portion of these bara / furry VNs focus heavily on the player being bottom and / or submissive, and it has been frustrating trying to find something that fits my taste. 

That being said, however, as the dev has pointed out, this game and his previous project are two very different games. So maybe give it a bit of time before jumping into the conclusion that there are definitely not going to be anything you like? 

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Ooooh, that looks very beautiful - are there PG18/NBSFW scenes (planned)?

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yes, there are plans for nsfw content